If you come in my cage I'll eat you too!

Wednesday, March 21, 2007

If Congress has its way and withdraws support from Iraq, what happened to Cambodians will happen to Iraqis.

"One of the results of the short American invasion of Cambodia was that the US Congress brought several new laws, including one that massively limited the ability of the President to deploy US military in a war against foreign countries. The other result from this short adventure was the further development of what meanwhile became known as “Nixon’s Doctrine”: this was to see the replacement of US troops by the local forces, equipped with considerable amounts of US-built arms. The US military attaché in Phnom Penh was ordered to prepare a study of what was now the Aviation Nationale Khmère (AVNK), and how it could be improved."

Nixon kept on supporting Cambodians by having US pilots train Cambodian pilots, even after the US Congress declared such actions illegal. This was a top secret mission known only to the President and the Pentagon and the troops involved.

"Known by their radio-code name of “Rustic”, this special and secret unit received their order directly from the President and the Pentagon and bypassed all levels of command between him and the 7th Air Force and MACV. Recruited among volunteers, and using O-2 and OV-10 aircraft drawn from the five Tactical Air Supprt Squadrons deployed in South Vietnam, the Rustic operated mostly from Bien Hoa and later Ubon in Thailand.The VNAF also deployed a Tactical Air Control Center in June 1970 to Pochentong to supervise South Vietnamese air operations. Furthermore, until 1972, VNAF deployed an average of 40 helicopters in Cambodia, mostly at Pochentong and Neak Luong. They were put at disposal of the Cambodian Army until the KhAF was able to field a sizeable helicopter force. VNAF operations over Cambodia represented more than a third of the total sorties flown by the service in 1970 and 1971, but Cambodia also often served as a test-ground for the huge VNAF expansion program by experiencing new forms of operations - like enemy road traffic interdiction at night or complex combined airborne assaults. During the period 1970-1972, ARVN continued to launch a series of incursion inside Cambodia, each time heavilly supported by allied air power. The last South Vietnamese incursion occured in 1974 in the Parrot Beak Area. Meanwhile, the Thai air support remained largely limited in geographical scope and size. The RTAF still attacked only targets on the western part of the country and had engaged only some T-28Ds and AC-47Ds and a few F-86F sorties before they were withdrawn from service. The RTAF also flew RF-5A reconnaissance sorties in profit of the Cambodians."

Of course, we all know what happened after US support was entirely withdrawn from the Cambodians. The killing fields.


At 1:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

o, stay in Iraq as long as you like ! Enjoy !

At 3:22 PM , Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

Thanks anon, not that I need your permission!

At 5:08 PM , Anonymous jack said...

"o, stay in Iraq as long as you like ! Enjoy!"

Only as long as it takes. Not another day.

No one enjoys being there. we all also hate to go the dentist but do it when needed.

At 5:15 PM , Blogger RoseCovered Glasses said...


I am a 2 tour Vietnam Veteran who recently retired after 36 years of working in the Defense Industrial Complex on many of the weapons systems being used by our forces as we speak.

Politicians make no difference.

We have bought into the Military Industrial Complex (MIC). If you would like to read how this happens please see:

Through a combination of public apathy and threats by the MIC we have let the SYSTEM get too large. It is now a SYSTEMIC problem and the SYSTEM is out of control. Government and industry are merging and that is very dangerous.

There is no conspiracy. The SYSTEM has gotten so big that those who make it up and run it day to day in industry and government simply are perpetuating their existance.

The politicians rely on them for details and recommendations because they cannot possibly grasp the nuances of the environment and the BIG SYSTEM.

So, the system has to go bust and then be re-scaled, fixed and re-designed to run efficiently and prudently, just like any other big machine that runs poorly or becomes obsolete or dangerous.

This situation will right itself through trauma. I see a government ENRON on the horizon, with an associated house cleaning.

The next president will come and go along with his appointees and politicos. The event to watch is the collapse of the MIC.

For more details see:

At 9:49 PM , Blogger gary said...

Of course if we hadn't gone into Vietnam and Cambodia in the first place the killing fields wouldn't have happened.

At 1:20 AM , Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

I have always felt like entering Iraq was a collossal mistake but not leaving too early could be 10 times more collossal, we have really backed ourselves into a tite one havent we?

At 10:11 AM , Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

yeah Gary the commies are great especially the Asian varieties. the vietnamese could have been like Japan all these years if the left had let us finish the war, the refugees would not have had to leave Vietnam and the Cambodians would not have been slaughtered by the millions and had to sell their children into sex slavery. As for getting into it was your hero, that stupid blockhead Kennedy that did it. Are you saying you are smarter than him?

At 12:37 PM , Blogger gary said...

Kennedy had decided to withdraw from Vietnam. Personally I think that was one of the reasons for his assassination. The US should never have supported the French effort to reestablish their colony in Vietnam after World War 2.

Vietnam was a mistake. Anyone with a brain knows that, including Robert McNamara.

At 1:05 PM , Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

No losing it was a mistake. And I am damn glad that the French colonised Vietnam as we now have really good Vietnamese food as a result. I'll take you to Le Cheval where you will see. For the same reason, I am glad that the Aztecs were conquered by the Spaniards. The god damn Aztecs would not let women have chocolate! What kind of a culture is that? An evil one! As for Kennedy he was killed by a Commie, period, end of discussion.

At 6:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

..and he probably deserved it.

At 6:12 PM , Blogger gary said...

Miss C, are you asking me out?

Military victory in Vietnam was not in the cards.

As for the Kennedy assassination, Oswald may or may not have been a Commie (I would say not)but since he didn't kill Kennedy it doesn't matter.

At 11:55 AM , Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

Did I ask you out? What on earth was I thinking???

At 2:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a conservative but i dont get what the fuck is wrong with you people. Its like you are fucking retarded. How do you people tie your shoes?


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