Left wing commenter dissected

Left wing commenter said,

"Gary, you are right. Violence begets violence. End of story. The rest of you are dipshits that don't know what the hell you're talking about. Especially, Donkeyhue, what kind of fucking name is that anyway. You mind as well call yourself Jackass because you're dumb as dirt. Let me break it down for you s-l-o-w-l-y so you will understand. Collective identity (I'm talking about Muslim extremists for you retards that can't figure it out) is fashioned and defines itself in opposition to an oppressive group (that's us shit-for-brains). We have been over there messing with their goddamn lives since before any of us were born. If we stop fucking with them, they stop fucking with us. Being rational and practicing restraint does not equate to being a "pussy." Go fuck your donkey hole or whatever the fuck your name is and think before you open your mouth".

This left winger defines collective identity. Hmm lets see. Do Americans have collective identity? I would say so. Are we oppressed? No. Many people have collective identity. The Chinese community in China town have collective identity. University students have collective identity. Is collective identity always negatively expressed. No.



Are Muslim extremists a minority? Yes, very much so. The left is usually the first to state this fact and I totally agree with them for once. If all Muslims are oppressed, why aren't all Muslims extremists? In fact the people most in danger from Muslim extremists are Muslims themselves. What have moderate Muslims done to oppress extremist Muslims that have made extremists so well, extreme? Those very same extremist who attacks us on 9/11, were very happy to have our help and arms while they fought the Soviets. I don't remember the left having any peace rallies through the streets of Berkeley demanding that the Soviets leave Afghanistan.

I also like how he includes himself as an oppressor. "That's us shit-for-brains" It really doesn't matter what we actually do. You can be a supporter of the Palestinian cause and still feel guilty as hell for some supposed crime perpetrated by Israeli troops. He should just kill himself before he commits more acts of US imperialism and aggression. It could be that he is being brainwashed at San Francisco State and will feel better once he is free from the yoke of peer oppression from the campus commies.

Does violence beget violence? It did when some rich spoiled Saudi boys decided to commit a shortsighted act of violence on people from many countries who happened to be working or visiting the World Trade Center on 9/11. Did all those people who died come from countries that oppressed Palestinians, no way.

Did Gary, the artist formerly known as Zontar, quote the bible? Yes he did. Does he enjoy being championed by such an eloquent and learned speaker? Only he can say for sure. Is Donkeyhue a funny screen name? We must all agree that it is. Did he know that people might play on the theme of donkeys and perhaps refer to him from time to time as Jackass? Since he refers to himself as Jackass, I would have to surmise, yes. Does this type of thing hurt his feelings,? I would have to say, No. Are we all retards? Who can say. We are Republicans. Many consider Republicans to be quite retarded. Do we have shit-for-brains? Only when shit faced! I will say this, if I were to be admitted to MIT, I would be considered quite retarded among my clas mates. There would be no courses remedial enough for me. We are all retarded compared to Einstein and Michael Jordan. Ideally we should be a combination of them both.

Have we been over "there" messing with their goddam lives since before they were born. They must have been programmed in the womb to hate us then, not a lot we can do about that. One finds it hard to see the Saudi males as oppressed though. Seems to me they've got it goin' on. In fact, considering that the majority of 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, I think we have been more than generous to the Saudis. Bush is hand holding buddies with them. Many Saudis practice an extreme form of fundamentalist Islam and Bush hardly chaps their hides over it.

Saudis oppress women at will and are well off enough to employ foreign workers who soil their hands so that Saudis don't have to. No Saudi has to engage in manual labor because they import foreign workers to do it for them. In fact, they hire a lot of Palestinians to do the dirty work. All this, they do on US petrodollars. I'd say no Saudi male has a right to fly planes into buildings in the US. if it weren't for an American philanthropist who was trying to help the Arabs find water in the desert but found oil instead, Saudi Arabia would not be the Rolls Royce buying mofo's they are today.

Bush hardly started the Palestinian crisis, that was the fault of the Arabs. The League of Nations mandated territory for the country of Israel, the Arabs did not accept the mandate and started a war with the Jews. Unfortunately for the Palestinians, the Jews, as we know, won the war and expanded their territory for the safety of their citizens. This happened again and again. I am afraid that the Arabs are very slow learners.

It always tickles me when the left gets very upset at our invading Iraq and says that Saddam Hussein did not attack us on 9/11 only to turn around and claim that the Saudis and all Muslims from Africa to Asia are somehow oppressed because the Palestinians are oppressed and so have the right to attack us in the name of Muslims everywhere. What has one to do with another? They are coreligionists is all. Muslims lump themselves together in one group so that we don't have to. Thanks Muslims. Now we don't have to be careful what country we invade, cuz you're all the same anyway. Makes it a lot simpler for us retards.

I saw King Abdullah of Jordan on the News Hour tonight and he is demanding that the US negotiate for peace between Palestine and Israel. What the fuck does he think everyone in the whole fucking universe has been doing for the last 30 years? He seems to think it important for the US to be part of such new and serious negotiations.

Well I think that since the US is so important we should finally give up the idea of peace between Israel and Palestine and let the cards fall where they may. We have Iraq to worry about and Darfur. Many more people are in mortal danger in those 2 countries. Let the UN handle the peace negotiations between Palestinians and Israel. The US should continue to support Israel as our ally.

Let France negotiate. Let Germany negotiate. After all, those 2 countries are primarily responsible for the Jews having to leave Europe. I say let's desert the Palestinian peace process entirely. If the world thinks it can reason away war like tendencies, let them deal with the hated Israel. After all the left thinks that despots are all open to reason. They think Israel is despotic. Let's test the UN's mettle. If the Palestinians get serious, let them come to us. I washed my hands of them long ago.