Earth to Muslims, come in Muslims!
Hey you in Pakistan. You over there in Indonesia. Egyptians, listen up. Don't worry about the Palestinians. I got news for you, you have much worse problems in your own countries. Clean up your own systems and stop scapegoating Isreal. Muslim prisoners in Isreal have really good Jewish lawyers, you don't. You all have tons of political prisoners in jails in your own countries. I would recommend that you kidnap some of your own innocent civilians, and demand that your political prisoners be freed, but I won't, because I am against such things. The Palestinians are not children. If they want peace they need to learn how to go about getting it on their own. If they want war, they also don't need any of your help, they are good enough at stirring up shit on their own. You guys are like the left here in America, distracting yourselves from your own failures by focusing on something that really has nothing to do with you and you know you have little chance at succeeding at changing. For the American left it's Global Warming, for the Muslims, it's the Palestinians.
posted by Miss Carnivorous @ 3:27 PM
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1. How many countries in the 'Muslim World'?
2. How many cities are in those countries?
3. How many nukes do we have?
I say we 'clean up' a few of their cities as a warning and continue to do so, one per day, until they surrender completely. The wacky, hard left thinks the world is overpopulated anyway. We should unilaterally do something about it.
Yes, they want to take it, hard! Anon, the left wants to get rid of the nice republican christians, hard working tax payers and replace them with a buch of smelly hairy activists that spend all their time protesting. That's paradise for them.
Miss C. The Palestine-Israel conflict though it is a clear injustice against the palestinians, (If anyone would care to do a lil research they could see that very clearly) for the Muslim world it is not about who is being oppressed that angers them its about who is doing the opressing. you get what I'm saying. As far as the "political" prisoners in egypt for example. These guys can stay there forever as far as I am concerned, they are the most extreme of extremists in those prisons, The Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Islamic Jihad. If these guys had it their way, egypt would be just like the Talibans Afghanistan.
Ahh yes and as far as the palestinians stiring up war and being good at it. Thats a little inaccurate. We've all heard the "israel has the right to defend itself" argument right. Let me ask a question, how do you defend your country when you are the one occupying someone elses. If mexico stationed troops in southern california and we attacked them and they fought back, would that be Mexico defending themselves or would that be the U.S. defending ourselves. The answer is very obvious but we have gotten very acustomed to how this conflict has been painted.
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Sho, the Israelis are now in control of the disputed territories of Palestine because the Arabs fought unsuccessful wars against Israel and Israel enlarged its occupation. This is the history of mankind. We can not go about returning all the territories gotten in wars, even wars of expansion, to their so called original owners. The Palestinians themselves are the product of years of occupations by different peoples. I would have to give up my house to a California Indian. I could go back to Europe and demand my ancestral lands back. The history of California is not a long one and the Indians were still living here in the woods 100 years ago. When does the statute of limitations run out? The Palestinians must get on with their lives, leave their refugee camps and join the rest of the productive world. I saw the movie the lost boys of Sudan and far from being miserable in their refugee camps the Sudanese seemed to find their camps preferable to working hard in America. In the camps you have few responsibilities which are all taken care of by foreigners anyway. They may then seek redress through world courts. It is all sour grapes, anyway, once the Palestinian refugees have their land back they will have other grievances to complain about endlessly. the Muslims will start in on Kashmir or the Philipines or Indonesia. They will not stop.
The Israeli occupation of Palestine is not a matter of wars fought and territories taken. Whats happening to the Palestinians is a systematic Genocide. I do not support fighting for land for the sake of it but the Palestinians, while they were occupied by the british previous to the Israeli occupation, the occupation by Israel is a military occupation that forces Palestinians to live in a Police state. If Israel pulled thier "settlements" out of acknowledged palestinian land that would be one thing but the "settlements" are put there to slowly force palestinians completely out of the area. Which by the way is a violation of the geneva convention, its illegal by international land to take land by putting your population in another country or territory. Is fighting for kashmir legit, i dont think so but is whats happening to the palestinians the same as what happend to native americans in the U.S. Yea and that doesnt make it a good thing, its acknowledged as being wrong and being a mass genocide. We can learn from the mistakes of the past and say, Yes what is going on there is wrong and we can still correct it. Things make sense when you take them out of the context of the middle east. Would it be ok for canada to surround the U.S. bulldoze homes, place americans under curfew and force americans to live in slums while canadians live down the street in air conditioned homes. obvioulsy not. The reason why so many americans are completely jaded in their view of what is happening over seas is because simply, "its not us" its not our problem, we dont care because we cant empatheize.
C.
I highly recommend you read about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because you don't seem to understand the core of the problem.
I highly advise you to read the late Edward Said books and it will help you very much to get a better picture.
Sho, if there was a systematic genocide as you claim, there would be less Palestinians not more!
Also the settlements are a buffer zone. The israeli settlers are a strange bunch of people and they give some protection to the israeli city folks. Eyes and ears. As for bulldozing buildings, we are also aware that there have been many attempts at housing Paletinians by the Israelis, but the powers that be prefer to use the Palestinian refugees as political pawns. Many of the countries do not want to absorb the refugees either. The Palestinians that are left are not the highest educated. The radical organizations are funded by the people that feel pity for the refugees. It is an industry like any other.
I have read Edward Said. He was here in the Bay Area for a long time. My friend's husband was always claiming that Said was his cousin. I disagree with just about everything the late Doctor Said said. He was an intellectual leftist professor and that to me means he was full of doo doo.
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