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Saturday, June 17, 2006

The coming racial apocolypse/ Fred on Everything and multiculturalism

Fred on Everything has an interesting column on the coming war between the races in the US. I almost think that he's right. The quote by a black gangster who says Blacks are killing Blacks, because they'd rather kill whites, but they know they'd lose that war, is very interesting. God forbid, for whites and other law abiding minorities, if the Blacks and Latino gangs ever decide to unite. I also like it when he says that a racist is someone who says aloud what everybody knows to be true. He says being called a racist is a badge of intellectual honor. Living in the inner-city, I know that what Fred is saying is generally true. On the other hand, there is a huge amount of co-operation between the races going on where I live. Considering the ethnic and racial mix here, we should be considered role models for racial co-operation. We do have cultural differences that get on each others' nerves, plain and simple, but it's rarely life or death. What people say in their own homes is something altogether different. I know that many of my Black friends dustrust and hate whites, but they trudge on and manage to have a pretty good lives. Sometimes, I have had about as much of inner-city Black youths as I can take and then one of the youths will surprise me by giving an old woman his seat on the bus. It ain't all bad. I once saw an old white lady fall really badly and hit her head and her elderly friend screamed and two little Black kids riding by on their bikes, went over and started helping the friend to help the woman up, before my boyfriend and I could get out of our car. They didn't even hesitate for a minute. Those kids were raised right, I am telling you! Another time, an old white lady fell while crossing at a crosswalk in front of a Black lady's car. The Black lady stopped traffic and jumped out of her car to help the woman and when everybody honked and yelled for her to move her car she just yelled "Shut the fuck up, a lady is hurt here!" which really, only a Black woman would be brave enough to do. Steel fist in a velvet glove..

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At 3:58 PM , Blogger John Doe said...

Frankly, I don't know the racial conflicts in USA (basically what I've read about this matter in Tom Wolfe's books). I know... I see what is happening in Europe, but it is not the same problem. When the non-white citizens integer into the "general society" and they get good jobs, money and this kind of things, do they go on hating white people?

My impressions is that in USA the minorities (?) are completely Americans, and the main problem is just of adaptation. I mean, there is no identity conflicts. Nobody says the African-American or natives are less Americans. Tell me what you see there.

In Europe, the problem is that the vast majority of minorities are recent ones, fundamentally Islamists, and many of them hate the European values, they don’t accept our personality and they’re ready to change all what we’ve constructed along the centuries. Many people hate this point, but it is true: Europe is/was a Christian continent. Maybe no more, but his roots and values are Christians. I love the idea of receiving new people, but no people whose first idea is bombing our churches, loving Bin Laden, hating America or ablating women. Worse still, a lot of shitty Europeans hate their own continent enough to accept that absurd concept of self-guiltiness proponed by leftist intellectuals. Do you know Oriana Fallaci? She use to write about this stuff with very good sense. But I don’t think Europe is decadent; I have the sensation that Europe is dead. Well thought, our problems are very different... humm...

 
At 9:16 PM , Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

SF go click on Fred on Everything's link in my link section and read his multiculturalism column. He's mostly right, but I don't see things quite as grim as he does. He also has a cool style of writing, kind of like Hunter S. Thompson.

Yes, I believe that Oriana Falacci is right to object to the take over of her country by islamic fascists. perhaps the rest of Italy is used to being run by fascists, so they don't care. I am in complete agreement with you on the fact that our culture is based on judeo christian values and that is what makes it so great. That is why so many people immigrate away from countries run by other systems and come to ours. No one is climbing over barb wire fences and crossing the desert to get in to the Muslim countries or China. We, the Europeans, Brits Americans and Australians are really the keepers of the civilized world. If we are overcome by the uncivlized hordes, all will be lost. Who will cry out when other governments oppress their people, no one, because all the governments will be engaged in the same behavior. Have you read Theodore Dalrymple's essays, SF. He writes some wonderful essays on these subjects, we are discussing.

 
At 8:14 PM , Blogger John Doe said...

Yes, I had read Fred's article. I have impression he wants to live in the 1950's decade. It would be nice to live into a Ray Bradbury's vintage tale, but it is not possible. And I doubt Mexico has more things to offer than USA. Frankly! //

I don't know Dalrymple, I'll look for information about this guy. //

I don't doubt that a lot of immigrants flee to rich/free countries running from the oppression and looking for freedom. But a big part of them doesn’t accept our rules automatically; they doesn’t accept the fact that, if they live in our cities, they must accept our laws. They still hate homosexuality, women rights and this kind of things. A lot of immigrants in Europe love Bin Laden and detest USA. A lot of them think Spain (well, Al-Andalus) is of theirs!!! They still practice ablation. Many of them only look for richness, not for freedom, not for a new world. So they don’t go to China because China is almost as poor as their countries of origin. Well, perhaps I am too rightist!!!

 
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At 10:47 PM , Blogger John Doe said...

It is not a matter of bad name or good name, but of quantity.

It’s true what you say: a certain number of scum western people goes to Third World to satisfier his vices; how many men and women do this? A few, in percentage terms. They give us bad name, right. But, at the same time, our missioners and all the money we send to these countries give us good name.

Now we can speak about the immigrants. What quantity of them are ready (or have the goodwill) to accept our rules? Many of them? Well, maybe. Or even: I’m sure of that. But it’s clear that there are a lot of immigrants ready to destroy our values and substitute them by their too often primitives ideals. Think about the suicides in London: integrated people from England. They killed their own neighbors. Think about the bombs in Madrid: they came from Morocco, a supposed moderate country, but they lived and studied in our cities for a long time. How many immigrants, or even born here Muslims are disposed to kill themselves to kill 100, 200, 300 people? Worse still, how many people support them secretly from their mosques, where their preachers call for Saint War? I don’t say they are bad people in general, but I don’t delude my-self, and I keep in my mind that a real menace exists.

 
At 10:26 AM , Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

SF,
It's the same threat the Native Americans were under when the Spanish and English invaded the new world. It's about the threat to our culture and way of life that scares us. The essayist Richard Rodriguez, himself gay and liberal and a minority said this. He has an understanding of what it's like to be swamped by huge numbers of people that don't share your values or culture. It is not race that causes the problems between peoples, but cultural friction. Even something as small as bad driving or spitting in public places can get on other peoples nerves. Where I live, they had to change the traffic lights to a four way stop, because immigrant drivers would not stop for pedestrians. Old people were getting hit by cars, although this culture is famous for respecting old people, they actually only respect old people from their own family and not the elderly of others.

 
At 3:15 PM , Blogger John Doe said...

Maybe I've caused a bad impression. I'm not speaking about races, but about societies and ways to see the world. I know it's a problem of cultural friction: [in this case] there are two cultures; one of them talks us about freedom, the other one bombs us. Exceptions? Of course, all what you want to find... but the bad boys are not just a few of them.

 
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